1 LIGHTLY EDITED CART FILE Girls for Gender Equity: Centering Girls of Color within the Racial and Gender Justice Movement of the 21st Century October 25th, 2016 National Resource Center on Domestic Violence 2:00 p.m. - 3:30 p.m. * * * * * This file is being provided in a lightly edited format. CART is provided in order to facilitate communication accessibility and may not be a totally verbatim record of the proceedings. The text may also contain environmental sounds that occurred during the event." * * * * * CART provided by Lisa Richardson, CRR, CBC, CCP Paradigm reporting & Captioning Inc. 612.339.0545 Caption@paradigmreporting.com >> All right. Welcome, everybody. 2 Thank you for joining us today. I see that some folks are already introducing themselves in the public chat on the left so that's nice you found that. I think we're ready to get started. So, welcome, everyone. My name is Jonathan Yglesias, I'm going to be facilitating the webinar today. Thank you for joining us this afternoon. First I want to take a moment to tell you a few things about our webinar system. I think a lot of folks who have either done webinars before or who have worked on Prevent Connect webinars in the past are probably familiar with the iLinc system but just in case, let's run through some of the housekeeping items. You should be able to see the full PowerPoint screen at this point and you shouldn't have to scroll to see the information. So what you all should be seeing says "Prevent IPV Tools For Social Change" at the top. And you'll see the title of this webinar right below that, "Girls For Gender Equity, Centering Girls Of Color Within the Racial and Gender Justice Movement of the 21st Century." 3 And if you are unable to see that, then click the bottom -- there is a box on the bottom right corner of the PowerPoint screen and that will change the size of the presentation window that you're looking at. One of the things that's kind of a funny quirk that we can't figure out right now is that you'll notice in the participant list, we have participant numbers for everyone and we're not really able to see everyone's name right now. So we encourage you to type in the chat who you are and also as we're going through the presentation, and if you have questions, pop up or anything that -- any comment that you want to add, if you would, just go ahead and I.D. yourself before you do that, so this is Jonathan, I was wondering a question -- I had a question around this thing. That would be really helpful. Kind of a weird quirk that we don't know why that's really happening right now but we appreciate you bearing with us. So, yeah, please submit any questions or comments that you may have in that public chat and go ahead and identify yourself. We will also be recording this session so that folks can listen to the presentation later and access that when they need to. Justine, if you wouldn't mind going ahead and taking a moment to hit "Record"? >> We're recording. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. So good afternoon, everyone. I think it's afternoon for everybody. I think -- yeah, I guess noon on the west coast. So, good afternoon, everyone. As I mentioned, I'm Jonathan Yglesias and I'm -- a program worker at the Virginia coalition. I've been working in partnership with NRCDV on this PreventIPV project for about three years and have worked both in Virginia and Washington state based antiviolence movement, focused on prevention work. We also have with us Lorien who has been working on PreventIPV for a number of years and is with the New York coalition, she's moderating chat and probably familiar face and name to most people here. Thank you, Lorien, for doing that, and Justine is going to be our tech guru so if anything goes awry, she'll be fixing that for us and is helping to make sure that everything runs smoothly today. 5 So thanks, y'all. So before we jump in and start learning about the important work of the Idaho coalition and Girls for Gender Equity, and all the amazing things that they're doing to center girls of color in the racial and gender justice movements and dialogue, I want to briefly go through some of the offerings and resources made available through PreventIPV for those who might not be familiar. Let me see if I can advance the slide. Oh, it worked. So a little bit about the history of PreventIPV. This is formed in 2011, or the IPV Prevention Council which is kind of the organizing committee of PreventIPV, was formed in 2011 and is a volunteer association of domestic violence coalitions, and they have a vision to create a collaborative and sustained primary prevention effort nationally that leads social change around preventing IPV in communities. And here is just a quick slide on what their goals and purpose are. Again, a national unified voice for prevention and these two purposes being promoting prevention as a sustainable priority for coalitions and local domestic violence programs and then also proactively engaging federal partners, funders and allied organizations to promote IPV prevention as a critical component of ending DV and SV. This is who is on the steering committee leadership of the IPV prevention council. Some folks that probably some of us know from coalitions across the nation. And for those of you who aren't familiar with PreventIPV, there are a number of resources that are offered on that site, and it's a lot more than a site, actually. It's a newsletter, it's an online presence in terms of discussion on Listservs. It is a kind of constant tools inventory, resources being updated, so one of the things that you'll notice when you go to PreventIPV.org is that you can click through all those different sections and find all the different things that you need there in terms of history, in terms of our connection to some of the CDC prevention work that's happening and some of the other national coalitions who are doing really critical work around prevention. And some of the things that might be of particular use to folks who are doing prevention work either at the state level or in communities is this wonderful7 tool that we have called the tools inventory, which is this kind of comprehensive library of self-submitted prevention projects, campaigns and materials that have been promoted or been submitted for use by practitioners in the field, and so that's kind of what I mean by self-submitted. And it goes through a vetting process and then organization process to basically be something that's easy to find and easy to access and easy to use for folks. So if you go to the tools inventory on PreventIPV.org, what you'll notice is that you can basically type into the search bar anything that you want. Say you're looking for an anti---tool kit for using workshops with youth ages 14 to 16. You can put all that criteria into the tools inventory and then it will auto populate this list of things that kind of meet that criteria. So a really wonderful resource and one of the things that you'll find as our presenters are discussing their work is that some of those -- some of the materials that they might be discussing and some of the resources they might be discussing are actually things that we can access in that tools inventory 8 space on preventIPV.org. Another thing we offer is there is an engagement section there that is constantly being built up and is changing and is intended to be a space for folks to think through how to make intentional and strategic partnerships around prevention with either funders or with folks in community foundations and businesses, or maybe with advocates who are doing a lot of work around crisis intervention and maybe are wanting to shift the framework to more of a prevention school of thought. And so you'll find videos there that are kind of testament to some of the wonderful partnerships that exist, that highlight how those things came to be and provide us with a blue print of maybe how to do that in our own work and I encourage you to go there, as well. So if there are any questions about that, I'm happy to troubleshoot or answer questions at the end of the presentation, or by email and I'll give you our contact information, as well. But I want to go ahead and move on to make sure that our presenters are able to share the marvelous work they're doing. So let's move on here. 9 So today we're extremely fortunate and so grateful tore both Joanne Smith and Kelly Miller with us, and Joanne is the founder and executive Director of girls for gender equity and Kelly is the executive director of Idaho coalition against sexual and domestic violence. Joo Anne is again the founder and executive director and responsible for moving the group through its planning. Ms. Smith is a Haitian American social worker born in New York City. She founded GGE in 2001 with the support of the open society foundations to end gender-based violence and promote gender, race and class equity. She's a staunch human rights advocate. Smith is the co-chair of the nation's first young women's initiative for CIS, trans and CGE girls of color. Spearheaded by our... In June, she led the first session to advance the equity for women of color agenda for the White House council on women and girls. , a part of the first move to end violence cohort which is I think a lot of folks might be familiar with that here and for those of you who aren't, 10 you'll become more familiar with this as the presenters go through their work and she's just done an incredible amount of work and again we're incredibly grateful for have her here. Kelly Miller is the ED of Idaho coalition and envisions compassionate communities for all human beings, where everyone can thrive and reach full potential. Kelly is currently the E.D. and alumna cohort of the move to end violence, again, something that we'll be hearing a little bit more about. After 30 years in anti-violence work as an attorney, prosecutor and activist, she's been on a journey that has brought clarity to her vision and a deep understanding that liberation has to begin with ourselves. She has come to learn that how we are is even more important than what we do. I think that we have a lot to learn from these two and, again, are just so grateful to have them here today and I could go on and on and on and talk about just ho wonderful they are and all the incredible work they've done but I want to give them the floor and let them go ahead and talk to you themselves. So, Kelly and Joanne, again, we're excited to have11 you both with us today and now you have the floor. >> Hi, this is Joanne. Thank you for having me. And so we'll begin. Thinking about all the organizations that are on the line right now, I have a question to ask. How many of the organizations here directly work with young women of color? I ask that within the feedback box. You select yes or no. If you directly work with young women of color within your programming, within your organizations. That is the work of girls for gender equity, so girls for gender equity is an intergenerational organization. We lead campaigns and programs using a four-pronged strategy of youth development, intergenerational practice, interagency collaborations, and developing social justice curricula to help move us closer to this mission that you see. And we really do so by really being the work, right, the personal is political. So we carry feminist values and the expectation of equality around gender, race, class, heterosexist privilege. 12 We have a majority women of color-led organization and a commitment to really remove obstacles for girls and women of color. And ultimately advancing the entire community. Girls for gender equity we're a leading advocacy and service delivery organization so we hold both advocacy and direct service to include advices and experiences of young women of color within our current racial justice movement. Again, we do so intergenerationally and we serve CIS and gender and trans -- as well as gender non-conforming people. So a few useful terms, definitions that I'll be using throughout this webinar are CISgender person, so a term for someone who has a gender identity that aligns with what they were assigned at birth as opposed to a trans person who's someone who identifies differently than the gender they were assigned at birth. Gender non-conforming refers to people who do not follow other people's ideas or stereotypes of what gender should look like or act like. And of course intersectionality, a theory that seeks to examine the ways in which various socially and culturally constructed categories interact on 13 multiple levels to manifest themselves, so I am -- as you heard, I'm a woman, I'm Haitian, I show up in this work black, you know, I show up in the world black, and these identities actually intersect, especially around systems and how systems and support or don't support the advancement. So thinking of what we'll go through today, I would love to bring you through the arc of what we do at girls for gender equity as well as why, bring you through how it is working with young people, working with young girls of color can really support the advancement of racial equity and gender equity throughout the 21st century. So one of the things you see here, sorry, it's a little blurry but is our theory of change process and with our theory of change process, we go from individual to global, understanding we span from micro to macro, that we can support through our education program, through our advocacy program, through our young women's advisory council and alumni program, young people at their core who need services, as well as the advocacy and systemic work that adds to the work of the world. And adds to the larger movement. Four of our underpinnings within our theory of change are strength-based and ECOsystemmic social work approach. Positive youth development. Black feminist theory and transformative education for liberation. We have a holistic after-school program in two community middle schools five days a week, called urban leaders academy, it's for boys and girls. So much of the work that they do is around consciousness raising, is around academic achievement, social justice education. We do workshops and trainings. Within our sisters in strength youth organizing program, this program is for girls, two- to three-year program where our young people come in and have identified that they want to be advocates, they want to be sisters in strength organizers. They see themselves in the work and they want to be a part of the work. They receive a stipend to lead advocacy campaigns but also receive direct service where they build sisterhood together, gets support around college, get support around high school, even whatever is affecting them in life. They're not identified by whatever issues they're 15 facing but as we, you know, work with them, then we come to find out whatever issues they're facing in their life, whether it be foster care, homelessness, whether it be substance abuse or parenting, and they still remain a sisters in strength youth organizer as we navigate the systems to support them. We also lead our girls for gender equity participatory action research. So participatory action research combines empirical data and collection and reflection on how one's personal experiences are connected to the larger societal issues. And once you find that out, you bring back the information that has impacted the community, so the community to really create effective change on the critical issues. So you want to identify what the issue is, you research it, number two, you bring back the analysis to the community and then the community decides on the action needed to then move forward and solve that issue. And then you reflect and evaluate what worked, what didn't, and this loop you do again and again. And, you know, participatory action research is really a space where our young people in our 16 community especially communities of color that often feel silenced around research, because research is, you know, seen as something that needs to happen within universities and by experts who come in and tell you what the community needs to do, it is really validated our young people in our community as experts in their experiences, as well as researchers and teachers, right, who can share perspective because of their lived experiences and can share, also, solutions because of the lived experiences. So, for us, participatory action research really grounds a lot of the work that we have done within girls for gender equity. One of the areas of work that we have done that was really built and developed after our work around sexual harassment was work to address school push-out. School push-out is defined as the systemic and institutional factors and practices that prevent or discourage young people from completing their education. So as you see on this school push-out wheel, so many of these factors, pregnancy parenting, family responsibilities, which we like to call gender specific burdens, harassment and bullying, and this7 is where sexual harassment really came in as a factor, especially for gender non-conforming youth, trans youth and girls, and especially girls of color who would identify that whenever they would -- these are girls in our program that whenever they would then retaliate against sexual harassment, because of zero tolerance policies within schools, they were also punished. So it was never defined as it's sexual harassment and this is Title IX violation, it was defined as a fight and because of the policies, then all parties had to be punished, suspended or expelled. So as these fact started to come up based on sexual harassment work, it was really clear as we started to poll our young people and get a sense of what was happening in their daily lives and in school, that they were deeply impacted by school pushout. Nearly half of transgender students report regularly skipping school because of safety concerns. Nearly one in six transgender and gender non-conform students face harassment so severe they're forced to leave school. Sexual harassment and gender violence forms school pushout is often overshadowed by the school population and what young men of color experience 18 going to school but we know that young women of color are a growing body of young people entering the juvenile justice system. And so as we continue to do our work within our urban leaders' academy where we do serve boys, we quickly were learning that policy makers and philanthropists and media and key public leaders were shedding a light on racial and economic injustices faced by boys of color. Advocates for boys, they've succeeded in soliciting significant public-private investment and targeted at increasing significant -- increasing educational and economic opportunities on their behalf. I mean, us as an organization felt it with the increased demand for boys' programming at girls for gender equity and the investments were both urgently needed, right, we need programming that addresses healthy masculinity and supports the development of boys of color. It's often seen as insufficient in scale as far as a systemic and institutional approach to addressing the needs of racial injustice that boys face, and it oftentimes it doesn't really support the actual hands-on skills that boys really need, and when we think about the support, specifically here in New 19 York City, four years ago, our mayor started a young men's initiative. It was a cross-agency enterprise and at the time it was tackling the crisis facing its New York City young black men and boys. For the most part, it was tackled at a time ending or at least combating recidivism into the juvenile justice system and prison. From that framework, my brother's keeper was created, this was a $300 million national initiative that our president created to really address the persistent opportunity gaps faced by men and boys of color. While that was happening, we know that girls of color, in particular black girls in the United States, are in crisis. They face significant barriers to education, achievement and economic political equality and are recipients of embedded, deeply embedded racial and gender bias in the media, public policy, research. As I said, in education, and in philanthropy. Some of the facts that I would love to share and don't worry, I won't read all of this but because we'll share this slide deck, I really wanted to provide facts in every area so some of the facts that I'll share are, black girls, 12%, American 20 independentup, Alaska native girls, 7% and Hispanic girls, 4%, are more likely to be suspended from school than their white counterparts at 2%. Students of color with disabilities are suspended and expelled at a rate roughly twice that of our non-disabled peers. Their non-disabled peers. Within economic security, young women of color face high poverty, race and -- race and harsh economic prospects in adulthood. Black and Latina women comprise 86% of females head of households with children under ten years old here in New York City. That means their three times more likely to live in poverty. As we move into the child before system, so it's like every system will hit, right? So as we move into the child welfare system, girls of color are over-represented in the child welfare system and it often fails to provide girls with safety and support services to recover from abuse and trauma that led them into the system to begin with. In addition, distributions in education, disruptions in education and lack of connection to permanent home for older girls and lack of LGBTQ affirming services remain significant challenges for girls in the city's foster care system. There is a historic lack of integrating gender into efforts to redress racial and socioeconomic inequalities and it's resulted in a higher rate of poverty for women and girls of color. As they move into the J.J. system, black girls represent 36% of females in a juvenile justice system. More than 60% LGBT youth in the juvenile justice system are black and Latina, and once in the system, the system is really ill-equipped, we all know the systems are not trauma-informed systems and we're moving from a framework of saying we need trauma-informed systems to saying we need healing systems but if you have this container that is so far away from even being trauma informed, it's impossible to jump to healing without dismantling the system. So once inside of this juvenile justice -- or injustice system, girls of color oftentimes, you know, don't receive the mental health services, don't receive sexual assault or abuse services or even ask the right questions around what it is that led them -- you know, what happened to them? What it is that led them into this system and has 22 them there that day? So that they can receive the support that they actually need so that they can be out of the system. As a matter of fact, reports like the sexual abuse to prison pipeline, the girls' story, really elevates girls who experience sexual assault are routinely placed in the juvenile justice system because of their victimization. Sexual abuse is one of the primary indicators of girls' entry into the juvenile justice system. This fact, I think, is something that as preventive organizations, we should be really screaming from the mountain top, right? Sexual abuse is one of the primary predictors of girls' entry into the JJ system. And so many times within our education system, within, you know, within homes, within conversations around sexual assault, and strategies to combat violence, we're not talking about child sexual abuse. We're not addressing it, you know, with children, we're not addressing it with families and with communities and schools. Even though we know these facts and we know the trajectory of someone who has been victimized as a child when it comes to child sexual abuse, and the23 chances that they will be then sexually abused or assaulted as they move through every stage of development. And so in closing this out, a 16-year study published in pediatrics, found that girls exiting the JJ system are five times more likely to die a violent death by age 25 than their female peers who are not justice involved, while boys are three times more likely to die than their peers who are not justice involved. And the same study fond that Latinas are nine times more likely to experience the same, while Latinos are five times more likely. These striking findings in regards to the unique impact of justice involvement on mortality rates of young women of color demand targeting. And they demand targeting because we know, right, we've followed the "Say her name" campaign, we know names like IANAA Stanley Jones who was killed at 7 years old by a Detroit police officer, SWAT team. We know RAKIA Boyd who was killed by an off-duty police detective who said he feared for his life but was actually aiming for the young man next to her. We know Yvette Smith and Kathryn Johnston and on and on and on, ISLAN nettles, we know that black women, girls of color in every stage of their lives are seen as a threat and in danger of the same police violence and institutional violence that men and boys of color are in fear of and in danger of. So as an organization with our young people, right, understanding the conditions, understanding what they're up against, we created a national coalition and campaign. We created it with activists, academics, scholars, parents, other stakeholders, to really collaborate and say, while my brother's keeper is happening, we can't wait for our young people to be seen and for girls and women to be a part of this racial justice movement. We will not be forgotten, we will be centered and we will address racial and equity now, not once our boys and men are safe. But now. We created also town halls and listening sessions, calls to action, right, so that we could stop the crude and unjust biological line between children of color, to really show that, you know, when you've reinforced an initiative that, you know, excludes half the population, you know, it really just reinforces a longstanding societal ambivalence to the equally urgents and pervasive inequality facing girls of color. We marched and we listed their names. We said their names, right? Say her name, IANA Stanley Jones, the Black Lives Matter community and wherever there was a march, we were sure to bring our women and girls, our FEMS, our gender non-conforming youth to the center so they would not be forgotten and we would not be forgotten within this racial justice movement. We hosted listening sessions where our young people shared, you know, how it is that they are impacted by these systems and these listening session was -- the first for the White House council on women and girls and really helped to shape advancing equity agenda, you know, national federal agenda to address the issues of girls of color. We testified at the White House, we shared not only our stories but then our strategies, right, because so many of our young people have stories to share but also are able to contribute to, you know, how it is that change needs to happen if they're also asked, right? And where it is -- they are the ones with the best strategy because they are the ones who are the experts who just recently went through the conditions and for many of them, they were still going through the conditions. So they informed so much of, you know, what systematically needs to happen as well as what programmatically and resource-wise needs to happen. Our young people also came to center within the young women's initiative, and this young women's initiative was the first young women's initiative in the nation to center the needs of CIS, trans and gender non-conform people. With this, our speaker, a Latina woman put skin in the game to be able to say over the next two years, New York City will invest 10 million through city council funding and 10 million through a matching philanthropic effort to really address the needs of girls of color, 12 to 24 years old. As an initiative, we went through a planning process where we came up with 99 recommendations, over 300 people participated in this initiative, and we came up with 99 recommendations through five work groups. As you see here, health, community support, opportunity, anti-violence, economic workforce and development and education. Our young people within the young women's advisory council as you see over in the circle there, they 27 really sat within every one of these work groups and we're the ones to have the last word on the recommendations that landed within the young women's initiative than now report, which you can find on "She will be, NYC." And through that process, advisory process which really is a participatory governance process, such an important -- as much an important strategy to not only building power and building policy but also self-esteem and mentoring and opportunities. So many of these young people you see in the young women's advisory picture didn't trust -- I'm not sure why it keeps jumping but did not trust, you know, government, and structures and didn't understand governmental structures and maybe some still don't, right? Trust government structures but they could at least see themselves as changing certain areas and having a voice as well as -- again, 300 people meeting so many people internationally who helped shift and support the trajectory of their life, so people they will forever grow up with doing this work, so many jobs happen through the initiative, young people went to the White House through the initiative and we continue at girls for gender equity to lead the young women's advisory council. What we have done is share some of our strategies around building power, our young women's advisory council report on our website. We've also connected folks nationally and would love to connect, disconnected people nationally so that in other places, we can have a young women's initiative and young women's advisory council and it doesn't have to be recreating the wheel. It also is a space where, you know, it's 25 young people, 25 and under, you know, who are really leading the way. They are the ones who lead the initiative as far as the young women's advisory council and they're the ones who decide on the strategies and decide on the areas that they'll work on and they're the ones who would come and visit your young women's advisory council if you so choose to develop one in your city or space. We've also testified within the congressional caucus on black women and girls. Our young people, one of the most important things to do and we talk about centering girls of color within the racial justice movement is to be able to vision, to be able to have a vision of what it means to be29 liberated, what it means to have dignity within our schools because we do lead school pushout campaigns and we're part of national coalitions, our young people developed a school our girls deserve vision and a school our girls deserve policy book as well as really giving voice through ten visioning sessions of over 100 people to what it looks like to feel like you have dignity walking through school and feel like you're loved and cared for walking through... [ Indiscernible ] 6 our young people get, you know -- go and get media opportunities, when they call for me, many times it's given to them because young people can speak for themselves, so when you talk about how do you prevent, how do you create opportunities, how do you create conditions for young people to really shift and to do that intergenerationally, to really shift structures, you know, you don't do the same old thing. You give them space and you really create opportunities for them to shine, for them to share their knowledge and you do it unapologetically and you allow them to do it and fail and do it and be successful. 30 Within philanthropy, one of the strategies that we embarked on is really aligning, and this is a new strategy for many of us, me as an executive director of a non-profit took years to get to the point of seeing myself as actually a peer or a counterpart to a philanthropic partner. First, you know, starting within this non-profit industrial complex, these are the people we have to impress, right, and there is a shift in that thinking especially when we have a shared vision and alignment that we are in this work together and we are working towards liberation and racial and gender justice and equity together, and we all are playing our part. And so NOVO foundation has been one of the foundations really leading the way in that strategy, convening 100 grant makers within their grant makers of color site, you can see video and, again, of young people intergenerational dialogue around what it means to support girls and women of color. They've also made a $90 million commitment to girls of color. They have an indigenous community and within America portfolio and I'm very lucky to be in New York, here in New York, they also bought a women's building, formerly the Bayview Women's Prison that was shut 31 down when we had a hurricane Sandy and luckily it was shut down and they were able to buy it and now we're reimagining and redeveloping what it means to feel safe within a women's building, and creating that building. I'll go through these slides rather quickly to give Kelly a chance to jump in but also creating conferences where unapologetically, especially within this anti-black space that we live in and not just New York but country and globe that we live in, centering black girls, leading a three-day black girl movement conference with, you know, over 1,000 participants over the three days, really elevating the needs as well as the cultural creation and brilliance and genius of black girls. Our black girls created a bill of rights, understanding that at the time the constitution and the bill of rights were created, there were no women, there were no black girls chiming in on what a declaration of freedom and humanity would look like or sound like or be like she and so they would create their own. And within that, you know, really being able to highlight their right to education and information about African and black history and her story. 32 Their write to express their blackness without being judged. Their right to feel safe and have physical, emotional and mental health honor and protected and nurtured. Their right to real sex education and contraception, not to just be seen as, you know, welfare queens or seen as, you know, girls who have the potential to be pregnant. A right to agency and control over their own bodies in every space and the right to justice and reparations. The right to really be able to be supported in response to harm and sexual assault. The right to play and have fun is one thing our five-year-old girl wrote, I want to play and have fun. The right to community and sisterhood, support from other girls and the right to be exactly who she is, free from stereotype and insecurity and her full unique self. So in closing, some concrete steps. As you're thinking about girls of color who really face deep systemic injustices in schools and communities and how you can prioritize them. Here are some things you can do. 33 One, I would love to see the poll on how many people work with girls and women of color, you know, but one is listen to your girls and young women of color that you serve within the families. Many times, it's not what they say that shows what they need but what they do, and if, within your programming, you're not understanding why they're not coming and you're not understanding, you know, why things are happening, then you're not listening, you're not seeing she and you're not respecting what it is that they're showing you. Many times they're showing you that whatever services you have may, you know, not really culturally fit them, may not be adequate to their needs, may not be things that they want. Trust them when they say what it is that they want. Listen. Ensure that you work with them through an intersectional lens, so intersectional lens is not just, you know, having somebody in place who fits the gender, class, race bill but a real understanding and appreciation and not just one, right, having a community of staff that really reflects your values of supporting and wanting to be in community of color, and staff that are also in decision-making 34 capacity who, you know, hold power as well as hold child care security within your agencies. Challenge your own implicit bias about people of color. Have a conversation about anti-black racism and sexism. There are so many tools at your disposal and Google and YouTube and local agencies, I can post the implicit bias tool that you can actually take and get a sense of, you know, what implicit bias governs your thought. And this is something you could keep private but you can learn then what to do to counter that because no one, I don't think anyone wants to be racist, but implicit bias is something that impacts all of us. And support the leadership of girls and women of color within the work of your agency. If you have girls and women of color who are interns, you know, and that's as far as it goes, how do you support their leadership development? And their trajectory as leaders within your space. And you do this because we're certain all social justice efforts benefit when we invest in young women's leadership, whether we are talking about immigration rights, racial justice, environmental 35 justice, when we invest in girls and women's leadership, and organize with an intersectional approach, we are much more successful at advancing every single social justice issue. This I promise you. So, thank you for taking the time to listen to some of the work that we do and I would love to pass the mic to Kelly and then get a chance to answer questions on the other side. >> Great. Thank you, Joanne. Kelly, the floor is yours. >> Kelly, if you're speaking right now, I believe that you're muted. So if you could you been mute your line so we can hear your beautiful voice, that would be wonderful. Thank you. >> So maybe I.T. needs to unmute her? She's asking where she unmutes. >> She could either Press star 6 if she did that, however, I think she might have muted herself with her own phone so wherever -- wherever you unmute or mute on your own personal phone. Or she can call -- Hank up and call back in. >> She's not on a muted phone. 36 Is there any way -- is there any way that... >> If she calls back in, she should be able to -- I wonder if she called in with the participant code instead of the moderator code. I am putting the moderator code in the leader chat, so, Kelly, if you could hang up and call back in with that, we will wait for you. In the meantime, we did have some questions for you, Joanne, one of the questions in the public chat was, how do you suggest centering -- centering girls of color and trans folks in an organization that has mostly white folks and in a way that is intentional and understood as a priority. >> Oh, that's -- >> Hi. >> Hi. Is that Kelly? >> Can you hear me? Oh, my goodness. >> We can hear you. >> YAY. >> Is it okay if JoAnn answers a question from the public chat for a moment? >> Thank you, yes. 37 Go right ahead, Joanne. >> So the beautiful thing is the work that Kelly will talk about will really talk a lot to how she has done that as a white person and as a white organization, or having predominantly white people in her organization in Idaho, but the first thing I would say is you begin obviously with yourselves, right, and having within the organization, because so many times the intention is there, the desire is there, and the skills need to catch up to where there is, so that it doesn't become a place where you're really bringing in young people and centering young people who are CIS and trans, and then they have to teach you, right? You want to create the work, to create the conditions for CIS and trans, gender non-conform and people of color to want to be in the space, to want to do the work. We of start with our own severs and our own house and bias, which is why I always name the implicit bias tool to understand what it is that you're walking around with so if you don't do that for yourself first, then you're unable to forgive yourself and then trying to make it up and nine times out of 10, it's just going to make it worse over and over again because you don't fully understand where that's coming from or how to undo that and the skills to undo that. So I would also begin with an undoing racism training and I know Kelly, again, is going to go a lot deeper into the strategies and ways in which her organization did it so I'll just stop there and if there is another question on the other side, then I'll jump back in. Thank you. >> Thank you, Joanne and thank you for stepping in, Joanne, as I was having technical problems and my heart rate was going up. So, I'm so excited to be here in conversation with you and just really appreciate everything Joanne had to share and appreciate Joanne's leadership in the country in engaging CIS and trans and non-conforming and girls of color. The question I'm going to discuss is how did a mainstream coalition begin on centering on our work, what we refer to as the last girl which is conceptual, which is the girl or the young women or the CIS or trans individual in our community that is the most pushed out has the least access for resources. 39 When I think about the PARAable of the river, which I know many of you are familiar with, we talk about how we're on the bank of the river pulling people out one after another and when I tell you in Idaho that the rivers are wide and deep in some places, and in the middle of the river you have many currents so I think what I have come to understand through my work and being part of cohort 2 is that we were not even addressing the individuals in the middle of the river. We were not pulling out anyone in the middle of the river and for me, the middle of the river represents the multiple systemic oppressions that are inseparable from people's lives, that you could be experiencing gender violence and racism and homophobia and transphobia and ableism, all the different ways as human beings that we devalue one another based on identities and characteristics. So when I think about our prevention work, it is the very same thing and the parable of the river is, why are all these individuals floating down the river, why not go upstream to find out why they're jumping into the river, being tossed into the river in the first place. When I think about that parable of the river in 40 upstream and prevention work, it's the same thing, whoever is in the middle of the river upstream who's being put in the middle when having to deal with so many different bearers that the dominant culture has created for individuals who have identity or characteristics that are other than a white hetereosexual male-dominant culture, and so, for us, that really began the trajectory in terms of shifting our work. The Idaho coalition, much like other mainstream organizations, we -- as we were going into these conversations and I really appreciate that Joanne said, you have to do this with a lot of humility and dignity and understanding, so we have spent several years now really diving deep into understanding racism and what does that look like, and it looks like anything from reading books by Daryl -- undoing racism or Paul Kittle's work to making sure that we're getting our news from sources other than mainstream, so that means I describe to color lines and everyday feminism and other media and non-web-based news source that is can give me the perspective and voices, particularly of women of color. At the same time, we're also, you know, deepening our thinking and our thoughts to watching documentaries, most recently -- and our staff hasn't yet watched it together, but 13th. It's essential people take the time to deepen their understanding on how racism in particular has really impacted our communities and our culture and really created this, you know, incarceration state where we really incarcerate at such high levels. And at the same time we have to at the same time, probably more, we have to have deep conversations because information is just information unless you make sense of it and you integrate it into your way of being. So as an organization, we went through a theory of change process, which is just fancy organizational development language for answering those big questions, like why do we exist? What is the issue that we exist to address? What are the values of our organization? What are the most essential to us in terms of how we are, and understanding that how we are when we do this work is as important as the work that we do. And understanding that we have strategies, what are those strategies? And then what are we working towards? 42 So during the theory of change process, which really has gotten us to what I would talk about being our north star is liberation for the last girl. When I think about the last girl, and I think for everybody just to understand it's conceptual, not literal last girl but it's to understand that we have human beings that are being pushed out, that have the least access to resource and opportunities and if we could center our work, really center our work on reaching the last girl, then that work completely shifts. And this is a challenge for the prevention community because I know most of our prevention work over the years has been what preventionists would refer to as universal, kind of reaching the largest audience. And what I will tell you, if you can continue and we decide that if we continue to have a universal approach, that we would never reach the last girl, and the last girl for us or almost always CIS and trans, young women of color. So thinking about our work has really shifted. An example of some of the components of our components of change, they have given us a solid foundation for this and among our values, some that would be familiar and probably expected from many 43 state coalitions, things like compassion, but other ones around interconnection and understanding how, as human beings, that we're inter-dependent and that the importance of authentic mutual relationship with one another on earth are essential. Other values, it might be different from some other coalitions would be ones around leading boldly, knowing that you have to take risks and you have to be open to possibilities and going into the unknown. Others would include social equity and collective liberation, which are two keystone foundations for our organization. Understanding that equity is different than equality, which is sameness. Equity for me really brings home that understanding that you have to understand and hear and see the lived experiences of historically marginalized communities, because equity is the only way that's going to really begin to shift the way our culture works, because equity means what do people need to thrive. Our value around collective liberation, for me that's one that holds just so much power and that's just about moving forward together, knowing that our mutual humanity is connected to the liberation, the4 most marginalized person in our community, which we define as the last girl. When we think about the last girl for this -- this is like our north star, our navigational tool so when we're thinking about the work that we're doing, how can we actually center the last girl in our work? Whether or not it's young girls and women who are from racial, ethnic minorities in Idaho, which often looks like Latina and Native American youth, or young women who are refugees or immigrants, it can also be individuals with disabilities or from the LGBTQ population, so the last girl is something that for us has really bounded our work and -- has really grounded our work and we've begun the journey and are still very much in process both in terms of internal work, which had to be really deep. I think I mentioned we spent like a year and a half, two years, and it is ongoing, it is not ever a one and done. We've had Monica Dennis and Rachael Abraham from move to end violence faculty out to Idaho I think three times last year. They're going to come out the end of November again here in Idaho and just to help us to have deeper conversations about understanding both implicit and5 explicit bias, understanding power and privilege, and what that looks like, particularly for individuals like myself who are white, hetereosexual, able-bodied and how do we show up with humility and dignity and doing it responsibly. So when I think about our work, it's shifted. I was telling some of our team members just a little while ago that I was looking at some of our youth engagement advisory or teen interns or employees we've had over the years, and, you know, I thought that we were pretty progressive each six, seven years ago, when I look back at photographs of the groups and they were almost exclusively white, white young people and it was because we recruited our youth engagement interns and employees from schools through counselors, and we tended, you know, to get -- almost disproportionately from youth that were white. So we really as we shifted our work and our focus and our vision, it also began to shift who actually reached out to us to be a youth intern or youth activist with the organization. So these are four young women now that are among our youth activist leaders and I'm going to talk a little bit about the trajectory of how we got to this place. Just to know that it's been a journey, it's been an6 incredible journey. Looking at this slide, this is like when I was putting this together, I was almost horrified and embarrassed but I want to show kind of like where we've been so you can see. So we have always been doing prevention work since I've been at the coalition, and had a really strong youth focus early on, almost ten years ago. But you can look in our campaigns just to kind of get a sense of the trajectory of our organization. In 2007, oh, my goodness, this was like our scary statistic phase, much like the rest of the country, just using, you know, all -- I think we had all white youth featured in the posters, the statistics, one out of three, one out of five, and for goodness sakes, why we had just torsos, I don't know what we were thinking. I think it was reflective of where we were at that point. In 2008, 2009, we were very much in a campaign called "No means no." I kind of look back at the posters and I'm even kind of stunned that each the young women are in very passive positions, in retrospect, in comparison to the young men. 47 So in 2010, 2011, we shifted to a Love what's real campaign from the no means no and you can see over the course of time we started to become a little bit more about empowerment and self-determination and some of the language even got to be stronger. We started talking about things in 2011 around individuality and then equality in 2010, and then also about this point in time, our youth also started to reflect some of the communities that we were really trying to reach. By 2013, we started to kind of move in about the right direction and our campaigns were featuring young women of color in more empowered and self-determined stances, you know, here fixing a bike, other ones we're showing young women as basketball players, but it really wasn't until 2014 and 2015 and '16, and this, no surprise, actually, correspondence directly with my experience with move to end violence as a member of cohort 2. For me, that particular experience was incredibly transformational in terms of shifting my world view and just having a deeper understanding of the kind of impact that I wanted to have over the course of my life and the organization. When I look at the posters in 2014, we started to 48 lift up more social justice and social equity and liberal concepts, and all the young women in the posters are young women that worked for us as youth activists. So page is in 2014, and in 2015, that particular campaign featured a number of our youth, Quie is on that particular poster. In 2016, this past year, our youth camp was a really incredible, radical campaign which actually featured folks like Audrey Lord and Deloris HERTA and Winona Laduke and other amazing black, CIS, queer, transgender women of color, activists and feminists who have been doing this work for decades and lifted up some of their words and vision but with the perspective of someone who was young, which were all young women of color. So for us just actually looking at the trajectory of our organization is a way to both kind of ground us in where we were in understanding that where we are going and where we continue to go is such an essential change because the work that we're doing now with young women of color has moved away from healthy relationships. We used to do a lot of work and that was looked at from many folks around the country in terms of 49 promoting healthy relationships, and I'm not saying that's not good work, it can be good work but we had to really struggle with the question, is that the best and highest use of our time, and we figured out it was not for a couple of reasons. I think the complexity of focusing around healthy relationships is you're looking at the antidote to violence on an individual level and not looking at the systemic level. So I think about all the different trainings we were doing around healthy relationships and just thinking about if a young person, a young woman of color being in the room that was experiencing racism, poverty or other types of systemic oppressions that are inseparable from her life, that how in the heck was understanding respect and communication going to make a difference in her life. And what the unintended harm could have been in terms of putting that responsibility on her to change the conditions that are so broad and vast in our culture. So for us, this has been an important shift for us in both a robust in analyzing and analysis. So I'm learning from folks like Joanne, who -- she's been doing this work with young women of color for,0 you know, many years now and getting a lot of tracks both not just in Brooklyn and to the White House but across the country and it's certainly influenced the kinds of work that we do here in Idaho. Here's our group of youth interns we had last year. One of the questions we still have and Joanne, I don't know the answer for this for us, and we were talking about this earlier today, we've always had a group of youth that represent across the gender spectrum in terms of just focusing on girls of color, we're also at the same time trying to create spaces just for girls and young women of color to come together and trying to do a both-and, not an either/or but a both/and. So when I think about our youth last year, we were youth that were queer, youth of disabilities, youth of color, youth who were refugees or had come to this country as refugees, and that processed this wealth of experience and perspective and lived experiences that really helped and shape, informed and really led the work that we do. We have always had like a guiding challenge where 3,000 youth around the state, so where the prompts 1 five years ago would have been writing more about a healthy relationship, this year's prompts are projects like who are your people and what happened to them and what does community healing look like. Prompts around liberation, what would collective liberation look like, and so this is a visual from a chalk art. We have a chalk art challenge contest that comes after the writing challenge in the spring where we invite high school and junior highs from around the state to participate. So you can see this would have been one probably about four, five years ago and great high school group, great junior high group and they did a great visual but we go to this year and it's much more empowered. Here we have one of our leaders who's speaking to the press. I think one of the things that I've learned from just listening deeply to Joanne and watching her is just creating the conditions for young women to thrive and to lead and so whenever we have events, it is the young people who are stepping up forward and the ones speaking to the press. And here's one of our chalk art event from this past April and, again, so who is showing up in terms of artists? We're reaching more young women from underserved and marginalized communities, representing racial and ethnic diversity in Idaho. The LGBTQ community, as well, and so when I think about the kind of work that's generated, here's an example, this year, from both one of the poems and the illustrations that were drawn by a high school group, you know, so it's just -- so much deeper and richer and reflective of the community that we're trying to reach and so it's just exciting to see how just this very important shift in our perspective has begun to shift and transform everything else. The other piece that we do is now we're creating spaces and learning all the ways that we can create the conditions for young women of color to thrive in our organization. I think it's important to mention that we have continued our journey in terms of when we first brought youth on, they were given stipends. Now they're actually hourly part-time employees, they're paid positions, they have flexible hours, we have staff that work nights and weekends to meet the schedules and the needs of our young people. 53 We make sure we have plenty of food. Food is essential. If we need to pay mileage in order for youth to come to work, we pay mileage, as well. And so they really then shaping and shifting our campaign, our gender revolution campaign, which is on our website at WWW.engagingvoices.org and you can order for free. It really was kind of -- got a great deal of traction from around the country. We had organizations and schools from over 40 states order it this year. We also had tee shirts that went along with the campaign. On the left here, you see a photograph of FATIMA, we had a people of color poetry slam one night. We also had young women of color workshop earlier this month. We had an event we co-sponsor with -- bringing in Roxanne gay and when boys -- went to the coalition, Kelly, can you go ahead and I would love for you to introduce Roxanne, it was just knowing that absolutely no question, the right thing to do was for me to step aside and say, you know, actually, Brookeee should be the one to introduce Roxanne and4 she did an incredible, incredible, powerful opening. So the same thing, we had an opportunity to meet Gloria Steinem just a few weeks ago, it was so important that we had a limited number of individuals that we could bring that we made the space for young women of color that worked for our organization to go and to meet Gloria, and one of the things that happened that was so fun and exciting is right after we met Gloria, Bookee turned around and said can I put one of my Black Lives Mattes and free -- buttons on you and she said yes. And that really prompted conversation the rest of the evening with everybody at the event. So it's like creating the conditions and opportunities so they can thrive and so I'll just end with this slide, again, I mean, I'm so hopeful, these are the young women that are leading us this year that have just started. We're building a in and out network throughout the state and really, in particular, focusing and highlighting and reaching out to young women of color and use want to thank you, again, Joanne from your leadership. We love you and we see you and we love you. >> Thank you, Kelly. 55 You're doing amazing work. Thank you. >> Yeah, and thank you to you both. Wow, this is just such an incredible amount of information to have shared with us and I'm so happy that you did. I want to leave time for questions, too, but I just want to make a quick comment. I -- so you both took a lot of vision into kind of making sure that in our vision process, that we're also holding a space for intentional shifts in our work, and Joanne, I just really loved something that kind of hit home for me is just how important that intentional process is around visioning for youth and in particular youth of color and I think for agencies, as well. And just kind of asking, posing the questions what would the world be like without transphobia, without racism, without these things and then building out concrete steps around what that collective vision, that's incredibly important and I think it's I think you both spoke a lot to, again, making the intentional shift to power sharing she both organizationally and in terms of particular identities in making sure that youth organizations56 and leaders from various communities share power with youth and bring them into the fold in terms of giving them the leadership opportunities. And also, you know, making sure that white folks and white organizations are freedom instantly or historically white organizations are being intentional about sharing power and bringing voices of color into this space, and I just -- I feel like there's so much that we learned from you. Thank you so much to you both. >> Thank you. >> So now I know that there were a few questions posed and I know that Joanne you had a chance to answer one. Lorien and Justine and Jo, I'm wondering if there are questions that came from the Twitter chat and I'm wondering if there are questions that popped up in the public chat that y'all saw that maybe we can go ahead and answer now. >> I don't believe there was any questions in the Twitter chat. Did we have any on the public chat questions that we missed, Lori? >> And LORIEN, if you're trying to speak, you might be on mute. 57 I don't think I was seeing any other questions in the chat. If anybody has anything now that they would like to pose, you're always welcome to hit the hand-raising button at the top left of your screen and we can unmute you. Or you could pose that question in the public chat. And maybe you're just, you know, soaking in all the information and want to go back and listen to this webinar or the recording, and we are happy to share our information. I'll put that up on the screen for you all. Feel free and reach out if there's a question about this content, or if you just would like to follow up with more information or anything that comes up for you. >> There are -- >> Go ahead. >> This is Kelly. One quick note that I know, I think Joanne you had mentioned -- for folks that don't know, she was a young 14-year-old in Ohio that had -- was living in an incredibly abuse I have home and south -- incredibly abusive home, was unable to get it and ended up shooting her father and she's been in 58 juvenile detention for more than 75, 80 days now, so there is a lot of work going around, I'll try to put the link on there, to free Bresha Ann meadow. Just like a young black girl does not need to be in juvenile detention. She needed community care and support around her for her healing and it's just -- it was so reflective of so many things that are wrong in our system in terms of the over-incarceration, particularly of young black girls in juvenile detention and the -- it's just wrong, it's just wrong, so there was an organizational petition that was going around, I encourage organizations to get involved, to have your organization sign on to encourage the prosecutor to release her, not even not just charging her as an adult but just release her. So I don't know if you want to share any more, Joanne. I'll find the link and put it on the chat so people know where to go. >> Yeah, I think what you shared is exactly right and I think this is clearly a place for, you know, young people of color to each enter the dialogue, right? When we think about domestic violence and the work to combat it, that our organizations do, so often, you9 know, this is not-typically the case, right? She's not the perfect vehicle Tim because she kills her father but she really, you know, is exactly what is wrong with the system. When we talk about prevention because she went to school, and her grades started to drop, right? She was a great student, she was an avid reader and her grades were dropping. That didn't catch the attention of the school administration and faculty. Community-wise. Community organizers asked the community and polled the community and asked is this a surprise that you know this is happening. The community said they thought actually her father would kill them by now. He actually brandished a gun in the community toward other people. He was aggressive and violent toward other people in the community. So the community didn't protect her or the family. And then when she ran away from home, she was brought back by a police officer who then proceeded to interview her in front of her father about why it is that she ran away. 60 So then the criminal justice system didn't protect her, you know, so, again, then, left feeling again. With this case right here in realtime, there's action that should be happening but also a real internal dialogue within how these systems really impact the families that you're working with and how it is also that then racial bias, right, impacts how you see criminalizing families or criminalizing perpetrators within families because so many times, communities of color families are not really calling the law because of such CARCERAL measures that have gone to further incarcerate communities of color because of domestic violence. So there is a lot of work for us to do within this field to right some of that wrong and to shift some of the systems. So this isn't something that we can wait for, this is something that our field has caused and prevention, I'm glad it's here but it's way overdue as a strong strategy and expression of ending and combating gender-based violence. >> The one piece I would add, Joanne, is that for us, I mean, in Idaho, we've had a number of free BRESHA activities and he's really been about girls of color around her age, to come together and write letters to her. Everyone should know she was on suicide watch, not surprising with the conditions at juvenile detention, anyone in our country, so it's been an essential time in our history to bring young girls of color together to talk about all the ways systemic impressions intersect and are inseparable and how we just need a different way forward. >> Yes, thank you all for -- sorry. >> I'm sorry, it's LORIEN, and I just wanted to bring this back to some of the -- I just wanted to reframe, you know, Kelly mentioned the challenge of this shift to the liberation of the last girl for prevention is not just reaching out to the larger group, which is what we've been taught all along from the perspective of the public health model but also stopping perpetration which has really translated for all of us into prioritizing the engagement of boys and men really overgrowth in women and that felt very right for a very long time. But what I appreciate about bringing up the BRESHA Meadows case is that if people in domestic violence coalitions and programs all throughout our country are looking for a way to enter this movement around centering girls and young women of color, this is 62 such a good way to do it and it really can be a rallying cry. It's a letter-writing campaign, making sure that we are able to core our support to her so she knows the world is watching. It's about really centering just the politics of all of this. It's really perfect as a central rallying point for domestic violence advocates all across the country and I'm really glad we're ending on that note. >> I think the piece I would add to that, too, LORIEN is making sure that we are a mainstream organization and had been predominantly white, hetereosexual, middle class folks working here and so we've today do a lot of our own internal work that is so essential because one of the things as I was saying, you want to also have a lot of humility, you don't want to step in all of a sudden shifting your work and looking and focusing onioning girls and women of color because chances are, there's already grass roots organizations in your community doing so, so for us, it was about building relationships with women of color, alliance here in Idaho, the disability advocacy groups, folks like girls for gender equity exist in many, many communities and 63 it's like being super transparent and being willing and open to learn but building those relationships and your own internal capacity for racial and gender justice work is just essential. >> Thank you, absolutely. And for those of you who didn't see Kelly provided the free BRESHA link so if you would like to bring this back to your organization and talk to the leadership there or start a dialogue among staff around what an organizational endorsement or commitment looks like, this could be a first step in the process and thank you, Kelly, for sharing that and thank you, everyone, for kind of bringing up this call to action for us. Kelly, one of the things that I saw that came up in the chat box was a question about whether or not you could share some of your theory of change work that you were mentioning? And I know that that might be kind of detailed notes and things like that but I'm wondering if anybody you wouldn't mind speaking to that for just a minute. >> Sure. I'm happy to just a one-page -- it took us almost nine months working with an organizational development consultant, JERADINE out of Oakland, we4 had at her suggestion and recommendation had a small group of staff, it's essential to have staff that were across the organization in terms of lived experiences, traditional authority, just because you were wanting to really kind of as broad a perspective as you could have as well as a few board members, so we spent a great deal of time thinking about what were like the five organizational values that would define all the work that we would do. You know, what was our focus. For us, our focus in the end is really being accountable to girls and assisting trans girls and CIS and gender non-conforming and youth and young adults, so that process was really robust. And once we started to live into it, it was messy, hard for people to kind of see that we were shifting because if you each think about the parable of the river and the bank, we had been pulling people out because of the criminal justice system and we had to reconcile that the harm that the criminal justice system was causing across our country in terms of -- ant and working in terms of gender-braced bias, as well. It was a very intensive process, something we're still living into. 65 It's a living, breathing document. I'm happy to share the one page with everybody and as well as some of the operation and language that goes with it but happy if anyone wants to email me or I can send it to you all and you all can post it. >> I sometimes don't put it on the webinars because when you look at it, it can be a little overwhelming. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Like my tax records or something, you know? >> Yeah. Sometimes the internal dialogue if an agency can be a little bit much. But, yeah, I appreciate you being willing to share that and, yeah, folks reach out to Kelly if you would like to see that and maybe we would try and include that in the things we post. Just as a reminder this recorded session will be posted on -- and preventIVP.org. It should be up by the end of this week. Also, as a reminder, if you would, please, I believe in Justine and LORIEN correct me financial a wrong, I believe when you X out of this webinar session, there will be an evaluation feedback form that pops up and so we want to hear more about what you would like to see and how this met your needs and how you're actually going to take this information back to your agency and move it forward. And please check out preventIPV and give us feedback on our presources and all the things that we have going on there and sign up for the newsletter and stay involved. Joanne and Kelly, we so appreciate you sharing your expertise with us and I'm really excited to see how folks are going to take this back and maybe start a conversation at their agencies in their communities and really kind of feel supported in shifting their work if they haven't already. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Thank you for your work. I love you, Kelly. >> Thank you, Joanne. I love you, too. Thank you, everyone, for listening in. >> Yeah. So thank you, everyone. Feel free to sign off now. Have a wonderful day and we'll see you next time. Thanks, Jonathan. 67 >> Thank you. And presenters, if you wouldn't mind sticking around for just a few moments so we can disconnect post-webinar. DISCLAIMER "This text is being provided in a lightly edited draft format. Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) is provided in order to facilitate communication accessibility and may not be a totally verbatim record of the proceedings. 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